Haha interesing.
LoL I like your number two.

5. Some people said don't fall into the friend zone but you know what, becoming friend is the first step. I'll tell you how i got my best friend to be my girlfriend lol. A lot of the time when two people become very good friends, there are some level of attraction there. I have several of my friends that like her too. I'm her best friend but i'm more on the sideline when it comes down to trying to win her over because i believe that trying not to win her over is the best way to win her over.

I did mention above that some of my friends like her too. They tried to win her over and make her fall for them. What they did is they only focus on one girl, her.....On the other hand, i focus on three or four girls at the same time. http://www.hmongpride.com/blog-entries/dont-know-if-they-like-me She told one of my friend not to be a player like me because i focus on several girls haha but you know what, she's the one who'll eventually fall for me..oh and being single and liking more then one girls is no player, having multiple gf is what a player is ....If you can make some other girls like you, you'll be more attractive..

when she talked about other guys to me,,,i didn't do anything or try to prevent her from liking those guys..i'm just pointing out what's good about those guys..you know,,it's good to be a thoughtful person...by doing this I'm showing her that i care about who she date but i don't care if it wasn't me...After some months of being her good friend,,i feel more comfortable talking about which girls i like...Sometime she pointed out why this girl that i like is not good for me..When a girl does that,,it kinda show that she care..and i'm sure she's a bit jealous too...

There was this one time that me and her sat with two other girls..i gave my full attention to a girl that sat across from me..at first,,my friend was very talkative but after she saw that i have so much fun talking to the girl across from me,,she quiet down..and she kinda got angry at me later on lol Wink jealousy

my advice to you is,,when she talk about other guys,,let her..don't show that you're jealous..give her a little advice here and there too if you want..but make sure you have your own story with other girls..and tell her your stories too...i did that and it work like a charm...my action kinda send out a message to her like, "hey if you really like me more than just a friend,,you don't wanna risk losing me because there are other girls who're interest in me too."

Lengo

I have to disagree with you on number 4 there a bit not all but a little. you can definitely change your physical appearance just as easily as changing your goals. it may be expensive but there is payment plan...lol anywho...wait does anyone say that anymore...don't answer...anywho...have positive goals is a great start. the last thing the opposite gender wants is someone who has no goals in life a loser. you know what i mean...

Hmmm. Competition eh? LOL. As much as I would like to disagree with that, I would have to admit, it's true to a certain point. When there are so many girls interested in ONE guy, it kinda gives you that "Hmm. What's so great about this guy?" reaction. Sparks the curiosity.

Your opinion of "being yourself," I would second that. I mean, true, you do want to be able to act "yourself" when you're with another person, but hey, there are some things that you must absolutely change for the relationship to continue. You can't always be that unyielding, stubborn ruler of the relationship. There are going to be some things that you'll have to let slide and some things that you are going to have to change about yourself to become more tolerable to your significant other.

my advice because it's too early for me to type a paragraph....

Be open minded of relationship.
Don't start any relationship if you don't plan to.
Invest in a relationship if you're serious.
Help yourself 1st before supporting someone else.
Don't compress those little issue in a relationship, these little issues tends to end up causing a riot.
Don't let your emotions take advantage over you.

Be clean and try your best to look good in a relationship.
Try doing everything together more, even if it's just going to the store to buy a lotto card.
Always tell them you love them/ appreciate them.
Be honest in a relationship, white lies are okay every now and then but serious.

ugh.. more to list later.

I agree with Number Ib and Number Four.
You won't gain anything from talking smack on the ex but instead like you said, they would just defend the ex and make you mad. LOLLL
As for Number four, sometimes you have to pretend to be someone nicer or cooler to get the girl or guy. If you're a weirdo and still act like your normal self........then it will be hard. But once you get to know them more then you can be yourself.
JUST KEEP IN MIND NOT TO LIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE about who you are.
Ok, let me rephrase that........don't tell your potential gf/bf EVERYTHING weird about you to her/him when you are just getting to know each other BUT don't dare lie and pretend to be someone else. =] liiFe

Sorry. You give good advice but I seriously dont like some of your ideas. I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Interesting thread.

Playing Hard To Get vs. Playing Smart

I never have to dealt with anyone who's playing hard to get before. I also never get to observe any of my friend trying to win over a girl who's playing hard to get. Usually when a girl's playing hard to get or being a stuck up then we just give up on her. Recently i came across this girl at my work place. I've known her for four months before i started talking to her. She recently broke up with her boyfriend at the beginning of September 2010 because he cheated on her.

One day i got bored at work so i initiate a conversation with her about how to workout/exercise. We became friends since that conversation and sometime we went out for a jog together or to the movie. She seems interest in me but she's not sure because she's afraid to trust guy due to bad experience from her past. Then one day we had a conversation about relationship and she openly told me that if a guy really like her then she want the guy to chase her.

Everyone at my workplace know that i like her and she knows that i like her and i can kind of see that she's playing hard to get. She doesn't contact me or initiate any conversation with me. She doesn't ask me to go places with her and during our time off of work she kind of ignore me. I remember i told her that even though i look like this, i have very high self-esteem as a person so i will not chase a girl. If i have to chase i will only chase a little.

Usually every time I'm at work i would go and talk to her and then back to work again. I do this at least three or four times through out our eight hours shift. I'm usually the first one to text message her or call her and things seems to be going her way. The way she wanted. A guy that like her should be chasing her and i was only pretending to be that guy as a set up for my second plan. Then one week i stop the whole text messages and at work i didn't go and talk to her like usual. I was just doing my own things and acted happy at what i'm doing. After just one day, she came into the physical therapy room where i work and she offer to share her orange lol. I still continue to ignore her that day with no conversation and text messages.

I guess she's use to having my attention but when i took it away then she started to approach me. She started to text me and sometime she would called me and forgot why she call. Isn't that obvious? One night she was out drinking at her friend's house because it's her friend hubby's birthday. She was a little drunk and she called me. I show her that i care and told her that she shouldn't be driving home. After our little talk she said she'll called me when she gets home. When she got home she called and i'm still up waiting for her call. I made her feel special by being a caring friend. Now she's the one that contact me first. I think it's working. She's playing hard to get but i'm playing smart