So your friend is13 years old? And she recieved this calling? We dont now until we talk to her and see how her lifestyle go then.

Txiv Neeb is acting it. It is believe that if his body doesnt return, he can die... That is why there need to be another person to hold him while he is going through the state of trance. Lets see if he can do THAT on his own? Plus, he is NOT inspired.. God's word is inspired . dont believe me? Go read it... I bet u will have your calling.. LOL!

Yeah, and when he lead the "dead" back to their ancestor, he had to lied.... He have to say something to the dead that dont tell grandma and grandpa who have sent you... Do you understand? If you listen carefully to what the txiv neeg is saying, many of his words are LIES!
Duh,. we know this..

O0oh, in some part they do.. They eat the pig so how could that be use as a sacrificed anymore? If they're going to sacrifice to DAB, they cannot eat it... Cannot touch it... They have to let it stay there until it get rotten.. But nope, they eat it... Prior to the sacrfice, they already called their relatives that they were going to have a meal..That is why they killed it.. Go ask your dad he might know.. LOL!

But when it comes to God and the Bible, it claims to be what it is... Not something we think it is and like it to be? There are absolute truth Becuase God is absolute. Since God exist and He claims to be who He is, then we all need to come back to him...And there are evidence for God that is why majority of people believe in Christianity.. The evidence speaks itself man.. If you disagree, how do you determine what is right from wrong and how do you know?

Thankyou.

This man here is obviously looking for attention and discriminating his *cough* ancestor roots of religion. He's been too brainwashed by the Church. He's so full of it and he'll never stop

Childish? Those are fair questions to ask for better educational purposes. But it seems like you dont want to answer them simply becuase you dont understand your religion. Or else, you would have gave me some good reasons to believe in your ancestors. If you dont then just admit that you dont know? Simple dude...

I am open minded and willing to learn at the same time. What do you want to know about Anthropology? It is the study of humankind from its beginnings to the present day. And no, it is not million of years ago.. Plus, we have to understand that non-believers are more influence by a secular worldview looking through an evolutionary glasses. But if we look through a biblical worldview, it is historically correct. I hope your Shamanism religion have a model so we can follow up. Goodluck..

YOU ARE ONE PREJUDICES MUTHER FOCKERRR! HAHAA

Im not prejudice. The reason why i ask these people why they believe the way they do and at least provide some evidence so that we all can educate ourself . We dont be want people to be indoctrinated but we want people to become educated. So it is fair to present both views.

Sure, The reasons why i became a Christian is mainly becuase of Jesus Christ and His resurrection which was a real historical event, and therefore meaningful for me (us) today. I believe this event really happen becuase we have the testimony of eyewitnesses. You see, eyewitnesses are important in establishing what happen who were there.... My question to you is , were YOU there? LOL!

Eyewitneses is important to a historical event. We have the testimony of eyewitnesses and we trust that testimony. For example, Jesus was crucified in 33 A.D. We have the gospel writer of the New Testament scriptures which were written after Jesus Resurrection (before 70 A.D) which is still reliable and trustworthy today! Read more here:

http://www.carm.org/questions/about-bible/when-were-gospels-written-and-...

http://www.rationalchristianity.net/historical_evid.html

In addition, there are many prophecies that have been literally fulfilled by Jesus. These are real historical event...

http://www.100prophecies.org/loj7.htm

http://www.reasons.org/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-reliability-bible?main

Nobody have seen Jesus becuase we all are born into this present age. But God preserve His words for us. Although there are peope who lived before us, they lived, eat and walked with Jesus. So really you cant prove your point either - that no one have seen Him. LOL! Many scholars who studied this particular subject are way better educated than you and would strongly disagree with you Haha! Goodluck next time.

I think you've missed the point. I said there were people living before us who talk and walk with Jesus. We are born into this present age and fit right into God's purpose and plan and He requires faith from us. God's timing is perfect. How do you know that nobody ever seen or met Jesus? You werent there? You may say that my assumption is just as good as your... But i have the bible... I have Creation to look at.. its all evidence for God. Well, what do you have? Goodluck. I hope you come up with good evidence.

Read my reponse again.

Im a Bible student. So tell me how to get into heaven? How does salvation works? Tell me how a person is under the grace of God where his/her sins has been paid for? So, if one person is prejudice (for the sake of this argument), he/she is going to hell? Explain why?

Again, im not prejudice. Im willing to look at all the evidence you have for Shamanism. So far, i see no evidence for.. You probably believes it.. But you dont know how to defend it...You may, but you do it poorly.

So, that is how you interpret it? Thats not callin.. That's just a curse that is coming your way. You either move to a new place, a different environment or you either call a Shaman to come see you.. Of course, alot of time a Shaman would say --> its calling you!!!!!! yea right? LOL! How do he know? He is fallible and make misinterpretation all the time. And of course, in some cases you would have to pay him fee Sometime he can just took off right? ahahah!

So, he is really traveling? I can assure you that he is jumping only to entertain you. He is not inspired in any good way LOL! Probably a false spirit. Plus, he need help from another person to hold him too or he will fall. Lets see him do that on his own if he is really chosen.. where is the miracles? LOL! No such thing. Lam ua lawn xwb.....

Ok, but who determines that interpretation though? Does it speaks itself or do we need a Shaman to interpret that for us? LOL!!! And why should we listen to his words when the bible says all men are liars and let God be true? Our God know the Shaman heart. Vaajtswv puab peb lub saib nas. God know his heart before he even approach God, and the bible says we do have a wicked heart. So before he can even come to God, he has to purify his heart becuase he cant know the things of God through the way that he is.. Even when we open our bible we have to cleanse our heart. Thats how we understand. It doesnt come naturally.

But some people would suppose that animals doesnt have souls and how can that even be a valid sacrifice when you already eat the pig and taken his life away - that is mean! That doesnt work. You are lieing to the pig. I can tell you something though:

Only Jesus can saved you. Why? Becuase He became the final sacrifice for you on the cross. This was a way out. God did this by providing His Son to pay your debt. The debt you and i owed is our life to God. You are a sinner and animals cannot pay for your sins. Jesus says that he is the way, life and truth. Only Jesus can take your place. This was provide through God's grace and nothing we can do about it.

So really, in Shamanism your hope is in the pig...... Our Hope is in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is sinless just remembe that. LOL!!!!!!! But you have to fully understand the message inorder to get it though - as the same way you understand the Hmong way. Does that make sense?

Sure, thanks! But you know, i see a very different hope in Shamanism. I hope you see the hope in Jesus Christ and come to that truth.

Nothing chin me down. Those are Atheist freaks that are deluded. They are blind.

Those are NOT proofs that God is imaginary. Those are only to show that such people like them dont believe, so why should God believe in atheist like them? It is also imaginary to them becuase without God, their life is also make-believe too. They live their life as if God did not exist. At least in Christianity, it gives us faith to acknowledge that God does exists and that we dont have to fake it.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkhQLt1vbWU

Question: "Is God imaginary?"

Answer: Godisimaginary.com is not the first to claim that God is imaginary. In an article entitled “Theology and Falsification” written many years ago, Anthony Flew, one of the twentieth century’s most outspoken atheists wrote,

Two explorers came upon a clearing in the jungle. In the clearing were growing many flowers and many weeds. One explorer says, “Some gardener must tend this plot.” The other disagrees, “There is no gardener.” So they pitch their tents and set a watch. No gardener is ever seen. . . . Yet still the believer is not convinced. “But there is a gardener, invisible, intangible, insensible to electric shocks, who comes secretly to look after the garden he loves.” At last the Skeptic despairs. “But what remains of the original assertion? Just how does what you call an invisible, intangible, eternally elusive gardener differ from an imaginary gardener or even from no gardener at all?”

Following Flew’s thoughts from decades ago, the web site godisimaginary.com provides what it believes are 50 “proofs” that God does not exist – that He is nothing more than an imaginary gardener, a superstition, a myth. The site claims, “Let's agree that there is no empirical evidence showing that God exists. If you think about it as a rational person, this lack of evidence is startling. There is not one bit of empirical evidence indicating that today's 'God,' nor any other contemporary god, nor any god of the past, exists.”

Actually, when a person thinks as a rational person and tosses away any preconceived bias and baggage that’s held, one must disagree with the site’s assertions and instead reach the conclusion that God does indeed exist.

Addressing each of the 50 points is unnecessary as it doesn’t matter if the site had 50,000 “proof” points against God; all one needs to do is use a logical, rational, and reasonable argument to show that God does indeed exist and every point becomes irrelevant. It is telling and interesting that godisimaginary.com focuses so much of its time on red herrings of issues with prayer and why God won’t do tricks upon request, and ignores the primary question of philosophy and religion: “Why do we have something rather than nothing at all?” In other words, like Flew, the site concentrates on issues with a gardener they believe to be imaginary and ignores the question of why a garden exists in the first place.

The only place on the site where a possible answer to this question is offered is “proof” point 47. Complexity, says the site, could only arise from either Nature itself or a Creator. “Proof” point 47 then states, “The advantage of the first option is that it is self-contained. The complexity arose spontaneously. No other explanation is required.”

This assertion and conclusion is flawed as they have proposed two explanations and then bundle a third option into the solution they like – spontaneous generation with an eternal universe. An eternal universe is, initially, a logical option but not spontaneous generation, which is a scientific term for something coming from nothing or self-creation, which is an analytically false statement – that is, a statement that shows itself to be false by definition. A fundamental law of science is ex nihilo nihil fit – out of nothing, nothing comes. And as Aristotle said, “Nothing is what rocks dream about.” The web site derides Christians for believing in magic, yet it embraces greater magic than anything found in the Bible – life just appearing out of nothing from non-life with no cause.

Next, their argument ignores the basic laws of causality – an effect must resemble its cause. How can an impersonal, meaningless, purposeless, amoral universe accidentally create beings who are full of personality and obsessed with meaning, purpose, and morality? It can’t. Further, intelligence doesn’t arise from non-intelligence, which is why even Richard Dawkins (noted atheist) and Francis Crick (co-discoverer of DNA) admit that intelligence had to engineer DNA and life on earth – they just say it was a superior alien race who seeded the earth, which of course, begs the question of who engineered that superior alien race. Godisimaginary.com claims, “No intelligence is required to encode DNA,” but refuting this statement is the very co-discoverer of DNA himself – Francis Crick – who admits there is no way for DNA to have arisen apart from intelligence.

But what of evolution? Doesn’t evolution explain life and intelligence? Not at all. Evolution is a biological process that attempts to describe change in already existing life forms – it has no way to answer the question of existence. This one piece of evidence alone began to turn Anthony Flew away from atheism.

These facts being evident, it then becomes quite easy to offer a simple, reasonable, logical proof for God in the following way:

1. Something exists
2. You don’t get something from nothing
3. Therefore, something necessary and eternal exists
4. The only two options are an eternal universe or an eternal Creator
5. Science has disproved the concept of an eternal universe
6. Therefore, an eternal Creator exists

The only premise that can be attacked is premise five, but the fact is every drop of evidence in the possession of science points to the fact that the universe is not eternal and had a beginning. And everything that has a beginning has a cause; therefore, the universe had a cause and is not eternal. Any fanciful assertions of collapsing universes, imaginary time, and the like are just that – fanciful – and require more faith to than to believe in God. The two choices are simple – matter before mind or mind before matter – and it is interesting that this web site claims it is their intelligence that causes them to choose the former over the latter.

“But who created God?” the site asks. Why not ask, “Where is the bachelor’s wife?” or “What does the color blue taste like?” It’s a category mistake – you don’t make the unmade. Further, why sit back comfortably and believe in an unmade universe and yet angrily bristle at the notion of an unmade Creator? Could it be because mindless matter cannot call human beings into moral account whereas a personal God can? Finally, is it more reasonable to embrace a cause that contains none of the characteristics of its effect (personality, love, meaning, purpose, etc.) or a cause that embodies them all (a personal God)? The site claims, “In other words, by applying logic, we can prove that God is imaginary,” but in reality, logic, reason, and evidence disprove their position and point in the absolute other direction.

The conclusion is that a personal Creator exists. Moreover, this Being who created everything mirrors the God described in the Bible quite well as evidenced by what one can infer just from the fact of creation alone:

• He must be supernatural in nature (as He created time and space).
• He must be powerful (incredibly).
• He must be eternal (self-existent, because there is no infinite regress of causes).
• He must be omnipresent (He created space and is not limited by it).
• He must be timeless and changeless (He created time).
• He must be immaterial because He transcends space/physical.
• He must be personal (the impersonal can’t create personality).
• He must be necessary as everything else depends on Him.
• He must be infinite and singular as you cannot have two infinites.
• He must be diverse yet have unity as unity and diversity exist in nature.
• He must be intelligent (supremely). Only cognitive being can produce cognitive being.
• He must be purposeful as He deliberately created everything.
• He must be moral (no moral law can be had without a giver).
• He must be caring (or no moral laws would have been given).

The Judeo-Christian God perfectly fits this profile. At this point, all 50 “proofs” on the web site become irrelevant – God exists; therefore, all points offered on the site are incorrect in the final conclusion that they collectively try to reach. Wondering why God won’t cure all the cancer in the world because a group of Christians prayed for it, pointing out the divorce rate among Christians, scoffing because God doesn’t create money for churches out of thin air, wondering why Jesus never moved a physical mountain, asserting a false dichotomy that says a person must be a person of facts or of faith (many brilliant scientists believe in God), making unprovable claims that Jesus never did a concrete miracle, and erroneously stating that the Bible “advocates” senseless murder, slavery, and oppression of women - all end up being impotent in light of the conclusion that a creator God exists.

Answering such objections – if they are genuine and not extended in a way that refuses to believe even if reasoned responses are given – requires only the disciplined study of Scripture alongside the Spirit of God who inspired it. Arguments with those who possess a hardened skeptical spirit are to be avoided as 1 Timothy 6:20 says, “O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called 'knowledge.'” But even still, God is fully capable of using His powerful general revelation (the creation) to witness to those who appear completely lost due to a skeptical and hardened heart.

In stark contrast to the article he'd written many years earlier, in 2007, Anthony Flew wrote a much different kind of book entitled There Is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind. In it, he recounts his atheism and relays how he now, because of evidence and reason, believes that a creator God exists. The one who initially posited an “imaginary gardener” now says, “I think the origins of the laws of nature and of life and the Universe point clearly to an intelligent Source. The burden of proof is on those who argue to the contrary.” This being the case, one thing is certain – the 50 frail attempts on godisimaginary.com to prove that God is imaginary fall far short of even causing a nick on the armor of evidence that opposes them.

http://www.gotquestions.org/is-God-imaginary.html